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	<title>Comments on: Naruto Vs. Cowboy Bebop: Blatant Plagiarism?</title>
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		<title>By: RRP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RRP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether or not anyone plagiarized has nothing to do with the quality of Naruto itself.  &quot;I don&#039;t like this anime so therefore what they did was wrong&quot; has to be the stupidest argument I&#039;ve ever heard.  If the same people who are saying that Naruto is low for plagiarizing saw something like this against an anime they liked, they would be the ones defending it and calling it an &quot;homage&quot; to something or other.
Having an opinion is one thing, but unless you&#039;ve done your research there is no point ragging on either anime without knowing the truth.
Also; the Cowboy Bebop manga came after the anime, and the manga version of that scene in Naruto wouldn&#039;t have been exactly the same as in the anime.  So there&#039;s no point in trying to blame the manga-kas either.


As for the several people who have referenced this Bruce Lee movie... anyone got a name to it?  Maybe we could find a clip and settle this once and for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not anyone plagiarized has nothing to do with the quality of Naruto itself.  &#8220;I don&#8217;t like this anime so therefore what they did was wrong&#8221; has to be the stupidest argument I&#8217;ve ever heard.  If the same people who are saying that Naruto is low for plagiarizing saw something like this against an anime they liked, they would be the ones defending it and calling it an &#8220;homage&#8221; to something or other.<br />
Having an opinion is one thing, but unless you&#8217;ve done your research there is no point ragging on either anime without knowing the truth.<br />
Also; the Cowboy Bebop manga came after the anime, and the manga version of that scene in Naruto wouldn&#8217;t have been exactly the same as in the anime.  So there&#8217;s no point in trying to blame the manga-kas either.</p>
<p>As for the several people who have referenced this Bruce Lee movie&#8230; anyone got a name to it?  Maybe we could find a clip and settle this once and for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Li</title>
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		<dc:creator>Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I doubt the Naruto animation team copied from Cowboy Bebop. It&#039;s much more likely that both teams of animators used the same reference live-action video of people fighting to rotoscope/choreograph the scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I doubt the Naruto animation team copied from Cowboy Bebop. It&#8217;s much more likely that both teams of animators used the same reference live-action video of people fighting to rotoscope/choreograph the scene.</p>
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		<title>By: BossManJack</title>
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		<dc:creator>BossManJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yooo, tell me the movie. If you&#039;re still there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yooo, tell me the movie. If you&#8217;re still there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Something tells me that if this was just about any other anime besides Naruto, there wouldn&#039;t be much fuss about it, and people wouldn&#039;t be calling it plagiarism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Something tells me that if this was just about any other anime besides Naruto, there wouldn&#8217;t be much fuss about it, and people wouldn&#8217;t be calling it plagiarism.</p>
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		<title>By: Mixup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mixup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Crocodile got it right. This was covered waaaay back. The fight in Bebop is taken directly from good ol&#039; Bruce Lee, and my guess is that the Naruto animators did the same thing. That is - not copy Bebop, but copy Lee just as Bebop did before them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Crocodile got it right. This was covered waaaay back. The fight in Bebop is taken directly from good ol&#8217; Bruce Lee, and my guess is that the Naruto animators did the same thing. That is &#8211; not copy Bebop, but copy Lee just as Bebop did before them.</p>
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		<title>By: Yooo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yooo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are ALL morons.

That is NOT plagiarism. That scene was from a popular BRUCE LEE movie, BOTH scenes were referencing that.

So to conclusion neither scenes are original. NOW EVERYONE SHUT UP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are ALL morons.</p>
<p>That is NOT plagiarism. That scene was from a popular BRUCE LEE movie, BOTH scenes were referencing that.</p>
<p>So to conclusion neither scenes are original. NOW EVERYONE SHUT UP.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow ok. 

They BLATANTLY PLAGARIZED. 

When I watch anime I should not for a SECOND expect to see the exact same thing twice.

I don&#039;t care that Gainax was behind both of them. It&#039;s just ridiculous. Naruto has no case.

There was a line and they crossed. No argument they suck. The Naruto Anime is horrible. Manga is great though.



P.S. I miss high quality anime. They are getting so lazy with the digital age. You have to admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow ok. </p>
<p>They BLATANTLY PLAGARIZED. </p>
<p>When I watch anime I should not for a SECOND expect to see the exact same thing twice.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care that Gainax was behind both of them. It&#8217;s just ridiculous. Naruto has no case.</p>
<p>There was a line and they crossed. No argument they suck. The Naruto Anime is horrible. Manga is great though.</p>
<p>P.S. I miss high quality anime. They are getting so lazy with the digital age. You have to admit.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, Naruto is pretty derivative and unoriginal as a whole. Lifting that fight scence (and unless there&#039;s some refrence to Cowboy Bebop in the credits after that particular episode, it stealing, not an homage) doesn&#039;t really suprise me. They&#039;re not specifically targeting CB though, there&#039;s another .gif with Sasuke that mirrors Bruce Lee exactly from one of his movies. Also, the CB fight scene is original as far as I know, I&#039;ve seen just about all of Bruce Lee&#039;s movies (I&#039;m a fan of Kung-Fu movies) and there is no scene like that in any of his movies I&#039;ve seen, though I can&#039;t be 100% sure on that.

The clips not really Bruce&#039;s style though. Think of the Bruce Lee movies you&#039;ve seen: The fights are surgical, clean. Bruce strikes quicly and confidently, it really never looks like there&#039;s a chance he&#039;ll lose (except in climactic &#039;boss&#039; battles). This fight is more brutal and knock down-drag-out than a typical BL fight. Spike is grabbing Vincent and sluggin him, more like a streetfight than the styalized duals you&#039;d expect from Bruce. If you have the movie and see the whole scene, you&#039;ll know what I&#039;m talking about. I&#039;m pretty confident this is an entirely original scene from the makers of CB.

To kill this homage argument: Naruto is made for &#039;tweens and teens. I&#039;m 23 and watch it because it&#039;s mindless fun from time to time, but the character developement, plot, and general tone of the series isn&#039;t made for a mature audience. Cowboy Bebop, however, isn&#039;t targeted at that demographic at all, it deals with tragedy, death, love, revenge, etc. Themes kids aren&#039;t neccessarily drawn too. An homage is typically used in a way so that the audience will catch the refrence and enjoy it as a kind of &#039;inside joke&#039;. You&#039;d have a hard time convincing me a typical Naruto fan would have appreciated CB enough to have bought the Movie (that scene isn&#039;t from the series) and seen that part of the film to be able to recognize the reference, which is how an homage works. I won&#039;t go so far as to call it stealing, because it IS just a couple of seconds, but you can&#039;t really call it an homage either.

In any case, Naruto really is a mediocre anime (though like i said, it&#039;s good mindless fun from time to time, when it tried to get dramatic it tends to fall flat) and I suggest you guys look into better titles with more complex plots and a good sense of drama. Cowboy Bebop is actually a good place to start, since we&#039;re talking about it so much.

Don&#039;t be weebo guys, just because it&#039;s from Japan and listed as &#039;anime&#039; doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s quality material. Look for the good stuff.

Woah, I wrote a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, Naruto is pretty derivative and unoriginal as a whole. Lifting that fight scence (and unless there&#8217;s some refrence to Cowboy Bebop in the credits after that particular episode, it stealing, not an homage) doesn&#8217;t really suprise me. They&#8217;re not specifically targeting CB though, there&#8217;s another .gif with Sasuke that mirrors Bruce Lee exactly from one of his movies. Also, the CB fight scene is original as far as I know, I&#8217;ve seen just about all of Bruce Lee&#8217;s movies (I&#8217;m a fan of Kung-Fu movies) and there is no scene like that in any of his movies I&#8217;ve seen, though I can&#8217;t be 100% sure on that.</p>
<p>The clips not really Bruce&#8217;s style though. Think of the Bruce Lee movies you&#8217;ve seen: The fights are surgical, clean. Bruce strikes quicly and confidently, it really never looks like there&#8217;s a chance he&#8217;ll lose (except in climactic &#8216;boss&#8217; battles). This fight is more brutal and knock down-drag-out than a typical BL fight. Spike is grabbing Vincent and sluggin him, more like a streetfight than the styalized duals you&#8217;d expect from Bruce. If you have the movie and see the whole scene, you&#8217;ll know what I&#8217;m talking about. I&#8217;m pretty confident this is an entirely original scene from the makers of CB.</p>
<p>To kill this homage argument: Naruto is made for &#8216;tweens and teens. I&#8217;m 23 and watch it because it&#8217;s mindless fun from time to time, but the character developement, plot, and general tone of the series isn&#8217;t made for a mature audience. Cowboy Bebop, however, isn&#8217;t targeted at that demographic at all, it deals with tragedy, death, love, revenge, etc. Themes kids aren&#8217;t neccessarily drawn too. An homage is typically used in a way so that the audience will catch the refrence and enjoy it as a kind of &#8216;inside joke&#8217;. You&#8217;d have a hard time convincing me a typical Naruto fan would have appreciated CB enough to have bought the Movie (that scene isn&#8217;t from the series) and seen that part of the film to be able to recognize the reference, which is how an homage works. I won&#8217;t go so far as to call it stealing, because it IS just a couple of seconds, but you can&#8217;t really call it an homage either.</p>
<p>In any case, Naruto really is a mediocre anime (though like i said, it&#8217;s good mindless fun from time to time, when it tried to get dramatic it tends to fall flat) and I suggest you guys look into better titles with more complex plots and a good sense of drama. Cowboy Bebop is actually a good place to start, since we&#8217;re talking about it so much.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be weebo guys, just because it&#8217;s from Japan and listed as &#8216;anime&#8217; doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s quality material. Look for the good stuff.</p>
<p>Woah, I wrote a book.</p>
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		<title>By: Morphox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morphox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t hate Naruto, but Cowboy Bebop is far better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t hate Naruto, but Cowboy Bebop is far better.</p>
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		<title>By: Reaper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 10:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franco was mentioning that the two were made by the same studio/production company, no the plot or genre, Roxer.  And in truth, if they were made by the same studio then there would be no problem.  However Franco doesnt no what he is talking about.  Cowboy Bebop is an original anime, meaning there was no manga before the anime.

Back to what i was talking about, if they were the same studios, then they would be no confrontation because legally, the studio has the copyright.  Generally, studios make their employies sign a waver so that any work they do for them is the studios property.  So even if the director and the rest of the entire staff were the same, it would not make a difference because the studio has the rights to the cowboy bebop film.  

However, you guys(especially you naruto haters) are pushing it out of perportion.  The scene is 10secs, probably less.  If the entire episode was full of rips from the movie, yeah the studio who made CB could sue.  But its just 10 seconds or less.  Another reason that they both have different audiences.  One is a film targeting a more mature audience,  the other is a weekly show with most of its viewers starting at high elementary to early highschool. 

Like someone said before, its an homage. Movies and shows do it all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franco was mentioning that the two were made by the same studio/production company, no the plot or genre, Roxer.  And in truth, if they were made by the same studio then there would be no problem.  However Franco doesnt no what he is talking about.  Cowboy Bebop is an original anime, meaning there was no manga before the anime.</p>
<p>Back to what i was talking about, if they were the same studios, then they would be no confrontation because legally, the studio has the copyright.  Generally, studios make their employies sign a waver so that any work they do for them is the studios property.  So even if the director and the rest of the entire staff were the same, it would not make a difference because the studio has the rights to the cowboy bebop film.  </p>
<p>However, you guys(especially you naruto haters) are pushing it out of perportion.  The scene is 10secs, probably less.  If the entire episode was full of rips from the movie, yeah the studio who made CB could sue.  But its just 10 seconds or less.  Another reason that they both have different audiences.  One is a film targeting a more mature audience,  the other is a weekly show with most of its viewers starting at high elementary to early highschool. </p>
<p>Like someone said before, its an homage. Movies and shows do it all the time.</p>
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